Monday, September 15, 2008
On poets behaving badly...
Here are some jobs that Bukowski had in his life: dishwasher, truck driver and loader, mail carrier, guard, gas station attendant, stock boy, warehouse worker, shipping clerk, post office clerk, parking lot attendant, Red Cross orderly, and elevator operator. He also worked in a dog biscuit factory, a slaughterhouse, a cake and cookie factory, and he hung posters in New York City subways. He drank a lot, until he developed a bleeding ulcer. He was tortured. How do you think his poem "the trash men" connects with Kafka's story, "A Hunger Artist"?
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I believe that his poem connects to the hunger artist story in the fact that both of the authors were having depression issues,and that both of these writtings are about some one asking or wanting attention and recognition.
Quite frankly,I don't see anything similar and I took a moment,walked away and came back.
I still could not see any similarities.
-Tiffany S.
I believe Bukowski's poem the trash men and Kafka's poem A Hunger Artist connects in many ways but one of them being how people or a person analyze others for what they do for what they do for a living.In A Hunger Artist this man was fasting because he believed people should understand his art and he yearned for the crowds attention he wanted people to notice him.Yet in the trash men the narrartor is watching the trash men and analyzing what the do while they are taking out the trash.Both the hunger artist n trash men are being watched for what they do as a living the hunger artist had a mass crowd who he noticed and sometimes hated while the trash men had the narrartor who watched them in secret.
I believe Bukowski's poem the trash men and Kafka's poem A Hunger Artist connects in many ways but one of them being how people or a person analyze others for what they do for what they do for a living.In A Hunger Artist this man was fasting because he believed people should understand his art and he yearned for the crowds attention he wanted people to notice him.Yet in the trash men the narrartor is watching the trash men and analyzing what the do while they are taking out the trash.Both the hunger artist n trash men are being watched for what they do as a living the hunger artist had a mass crowd who he noticed and sometimes hated while the trash men had the narrartor who watched them in secret.
the connectiom between the "hunger artist" and "the trash men", are made in the last stanza of the trash men, stateing "none of them know that i am alive". To me ment that(makeing the connection)the hunger atist felt along and felt as though he and his work was'nt taken into heart.
Bukowski's poem "The Trash Men" connects with Kafka's story "A Hunger Artist" in that both tell the tale of someone who knew the habits of those around him and wanted to be recognized by them, but were left to feel like they are not there.
i read the poem over and over and over again and the only similarity i could determine between a hunger artist and the trash men is that both the hunger artist and the trash men are being watched while they do their life's work bu the hunger artist knows hes being watched while the trash men have no idea bukowski even exist
Garry R
In my opinion, i think that both the story "A hunger artist" by kafka, and the poem "The trash men" by Bukowski, do in fact make a connection. I think that the trash men relate to the hunger arst in the aspect that they have a daily routine, they dont really like what they're doing for a job but do it anyway to bring home money and don't really realize that they're not happy. While in the hunger artist in a way as well has a daily routine for something that is'nt as satisfying nor pleasant but knows he has to do it in order to achieve his goal, just as the trash men with their money.
-Michelle C. <3
The only connection I see is the job the people do to continue their life. In the trash man, the people collect the trash. They need the job so they can pay their personal expenses. In the hunger artist, the artist fast, that his only job. Works as a display. If I'm wrong then I do not know.
"the thrash men" by Bukowski and "A hunger artist" by Kafka are a passage and a poem which have similarities. They are similar in that the main characters of both were labeled according to their occupation.
In my opinion, the author made me wonder for hours what he meant by the last stanza, in which he wrote "none of them no that I am alive". I'm still puzzled by that line, but my guess on how both poems connect, is whoever or "whatever" the narrator might be, it is desperate for attention just like the hunger artist when he would fast to entertain the people.
In Both a "Hunger Artist" and "The Trash Men" they have a main similarity, which is that they both feature and tell a story about a person who has a type of habit and tries to use it to get public attention, or attention period.
The connection or similarities in the two poems are that the main character has a yearning for attention and feels non-existent to the public.
-Andre O. Scarlett
After reading both the short story "A Hunger Artist" and the poem "The Trash Man" I realized that they have many similarities. The biggest one probably being that they want people to notice them. Also You can relate the trash men to the public in the Hunger Artist. you can also draw the conclusion that both protagonist have a low self esteem.
Despite of their differences, I feel that both "The Hunger Artist" and "The Trash Men" do have something similar. I feel that both narrators are trapped. I feel that the hunger artist was trapped in his desperate need of attention. Im not sure, but i felt like the narator in "the trash men" seemed to be trapped in garbage.
-Nora
The thing that A Hunger Artist and the trash man had in common was that they had people on the outside looking in, A Hunger Artist had characters called the observers they looked after the hunger artist and the poem the trash man had this guy watching the trash man.
I think the connection between "the trash men" and "the hunger artist" is that they both had a daily routine. The hunger artist's routine was fasting while the trash men had the daily routine of sanition work. In addition, neither enjoyed doing it that much but it happens to be the only thing they do well.
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